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==> Lyndis: Be productive.

Well, it took awhile, but once you stopped FLIPPING BULGES and distracting yourself from your WEIRD TIME SHIT with a lot of GRIST GRINDING and ALCHEMIZING WAY TOO MUCH STUFF, you finally started actually BEING PRODUCTIVE. The grinding allowed you to GAIN SOME LEVELS, which as far as you can tell is just a DUMB NICKNAME SYSTEM that gives you periodic infusions of BOONDOLLARS, but you assume it will be useful at some point. (What kind of game doesn't require you to get ALL THE LEVELS? But REAL LIFE doesn't have ABILITIES measured in NUMERIC STATISTICS that are increased upon LEVEL UP, so you're not actually sure how this is helping you.) More to the point, YOUR SERVER PLAYER has had enough grist to build up your CLIFF to the FIRST GATE - which was EASIER THAN IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, since, you know, cliffs tend to be NATURALLY HIGH TO START WITH.

You went through it A LITTLE WHILE AGO, which accomplished NOTHING OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE except getting you kind of LOST. It's just as well there are plenty of CAVES on your planet, and also that you ALWAYS CAPTCHALOGUE YOUR EVERYDAY ESSENTIALS before you go anywhere; you haven't left ANYTHING back at your CAVE except, well, MEMORIES OF A SENTIMENTAL NATURE you would NEVER ADMIT to having. You're pretty sure you can ACTUALLY SEE THE FIRST GATE way off in the distance whenever you are AT THE TOP OF ANOTHER CLIFF, since there is A HUGE AND EASILY VISIBLE STRUCTURE leading up to it; part of you wants to head RIGHT BACK THERE, but as of yet you HAVEN'T GIVEN INTO THE TEMPTATION. You swore you were going to PROGRESS in this game, dammit, you can't just go RUNNING HOME LIKE A HIVESICK WIGGLER.

That, and you CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE IT ANYMORE, thanks to a bunch of FUCKING INEXPLICABLE STATIC that seems to be LOCALIZED TO YOU; no matter where you go, your FIELD OF VISION seems to cut off into A BUNCH OF SHITTY STATIC WHITE NOISE about THIRTY FEET AWAY in every direction. It is SO FUCKING ANNOYING and it honestly makes wandering around KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE AND DANGEROUS.

You are currently holed up in ANOTHER CAVE; it beats FRYING under your planet's godforsaken SUN(the light of which is COMPLETELY UNAFFECTED BY THE STATIC, dammit). It isn't as fierce as the sun on ALTERNIA, at least in that it doesn't CAUSE YOU ACTUAL BODILY HARM to be out in it, but it's still FUCKING UNPLEASANT. No wonder your quest involves BRINGING SOME GODDAMN SHADE in ways you are still COMPLETELY UNCLEAR ON. From what you've gathered, you're supposed to DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SUN ITSELF - but that's COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. How the fuck could you do something like that?

But you're getting DISTRACTED. You've got a PURPOSE right now, as much because you're not sure HOW TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR PLANET QUEST and whether or not you should be working toward your SECOND GATE or STAYING PUT to meet up with other players as because THIS IS IMPORTANT SHIT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NAILED DOWN A LONG TIME AGO.

To that end, you OPEN A MEMO.

-- artfulTransgressor [AT] RIGHT NOW opened memo on board so done with playing blind. --

AT: alright so
AT: dunno how many of you actually open your sponge clots when cs is talking
AT: i wouldnt really blame you if you just sort of let that shit wash oVer you without bothering to process any of it
AT: but belieVe it or not he actually had something important to say about sequences a memo or two back
AT: specifically that all our planets may be connected through our gates
AT: probably just through our own indiVidual sessions but honestly who the fuck knows at this point
AT: but he also said that despite working out there is a sequence
AT: he has no fucking idea what the sequence is
AT: or eVen who is in what session
AT: and you know who else doesnt know
AT: me
AT: i kinda wonder if ANYBODY fucking knows
AT: this memo is to remedy that shit right now
AT: so
AT: lets get this shit sorted out
AT: i want you
AT: no matter who the fuck you are eVen if weVe neVer talked
AT: or eVen if you cannot fucking stand me
AT: put your hands down kids
AT: to sound off here
AT: i want you to giVe your name
AT: along with who your serVer and client players are
AT: i dont care if your serVer and client haVe already spoken up by the way
AT: you damn well sound off anyway
AT: this is as much to get people straight as sequences
AT: and it gets eVeryone checking in
AT: if we get eVeryone to do this then we should be able to figure out the sequences
AT: along with how many sessions weVe got here
AT: and once weVe got the sequences and sessions straight maybe we can come up with some kinda plan
AT: ill eVen set up a format
AT: its gonna be serVer - you - client
AT: so in my case kaprao - lyn - zirreh
AT: as far as i know the three of us are all part of the original session phaest started
AT: were gonna call that the alpha session for claritys sake
AT: i know theres another troll session that sorta squeezed in
AT: well call that beta
AT: and so on down the line if theres more i honestly dont know at this point
AT: theres a human session as well i know that much
AT: theyre just gonna be the human session
AT: if theres more than one of their sessions too i guess well figure out names
AT: but does eVeryone get the idea of what were trying to figure out here
AT: good
AT: now sound off

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do you anticipate a lot of puzzle battles

Yes, Lyn, 4bsolutely, yes!
Everything in this g4me... revolves 4round puzzles, 4bsolutely!
4bsolutely everything, every p4rt... of the g4me is... 4ctu4lly 4 puzzle, yes!
So every puzzle will... h4ve to be solved!
Every single one, yes!
I think we're going... to h4ve the most... puzzle b4ttles, 4bsolutely, yes!
We've 4lre4dy finished 4... lot of the puzzles.
But there 4re more... w4iting to be solved!!!!

i think youVe got an oVerly broad definition of the term 'puzzle'
but whateVer floats your boat i guess

But I don't h4ve... 4 bo4t, Lyn, no.
How c4n I flo4t... wh4t I don't h4ve?
4lso I don't know... if I like the... w4ter 4t 4ll, no.
Th4t seems d4ngerous, m4ybe.

i asked for that didnt i
aVispa do you honestly not know what a metaphor is
its like a word puzzle it should be right up your alley
its where you use a phrase that isnt actually literal
its meant to suggest something else in its being similar to what it actually means
like when i say 'whateVer floats your boat'
it actually means 'whateVer makes you happy'
cause boats are meant to float so if its floating then that means eVerything is working out
likewise youre
meant to be happy i guess
so if youre happy eVerythings good

...this may not haVe been the best example

That completely got away from you somewhere in there, and as so often is the case you're regretting your attempt to schoolfeed Avispa anything. WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?

You stare at Lyn's explanation for a few moments and only get more confused. What's he talking about...?

Um, but, Lyn, then...
Why didn't you just... s4y "wh4tever m4kes you... h4ppy" inste4d, then, um?
If th4t's wh4t you... w4nted to s4y, m4ybe.

cause most people understand metaphors aVispa
so it WAS basically me saying that
just in different words
expressions are a part of language and thats a pretty goddamn common one
so most people
myself included
wouldnt think the person hearing it would fail to get it

besides
isnt that a weird thing to ask
giVen that its you
thats like asking why a jigsaw puzzle isnt just a picture
yeah then you wouldnt haVe to solVe anything
but it kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it

Um, so b4sic4lly met4phors... 4re word puzzles, yes?
They just need to... be solved to find... their me4ning, I think!
But, how do I... know wh4t is 4nd... isn't 4 met4phor, Lyn.
Is it th4t most... met4phors 4ren't liter4l, m4ybe?
So they don't m4ke... sense until you think... 4bout them more, m4ybe?

4nd oh, th4t's 4... good point, I think!
Jigs4w puzzles only become... pictures 4fter they're solved!
But before, they're puzzles!
4nd you c4n 4lw4ys... t4ke it 4p4rt to... solve it 4g4in, yes!
You c4n't turn 4... norm4l picture into 4... jigs4w puzzle, you c4n't!
Th4t m4kes sense, yes!

pretty much
if someone says something that doesnt make literal sense
and they dont offer an explanation
it might be a metaphor
you just haVe to figure out what they meant by it
youll get the hang of it pretty quickly
i think

theres similes too
theyre a lot like metaphors
basically
a simile is where someone outright compares two things
like if they say 'you need a doomsday deVice like a fish needs a two-wheeled deVice'
thats a simile
a fish obViously doesnt need a two-wheeled deVice cause fish dont eVen haVe legs
the whole idea is ridiculous
so the message is that person really does not need a doomsday deVice

a metaphors where theres no outright comparison
youre not saying one thing is like something else
youre saying it actually IS something else
only its not actually literal
like if someone said 'this session is drowning in a sea of ineptitude'
there is no actual sea
and no one is actually drowning
it just means theres a fuckload of ineptitude

you getting it yet

I, um, but wh4t... if I did need... 4 doomsd4y device, Lyn?
Then th4t wouldn't work!
But um, I don't... think I like met4phors... or similes, no, m4ybe.
4nd they 4lso h4ve... funny n4mes, I think.
I'm going to keep... s4ying wh4t I me4n!
Bec4use it's e4sier, yes!
4nd then no one... will be confused by... the things I s4y!
Bec4use I'll m4ke sense!
I'll try, m4ybe, to... solve met4phors 4nd similes... from others though, m4ybe.
If I notice them.
But I don't re4lly... like them 4t 4ll.

sigh
you tailor the sayings to the situation aVispa
if you needed a doomsday deVice then id switch it to something you DIDNT need
like say a violent punch to the face
do you foresee a situation where youd eVer need one of those

that said
i cannot belieVe you dislike them
i thought obscure and needlessly confusing shit that you haVe to work to figure out would be right up your alley

No, 4bsolutely not, no!
Punching is b4d, especi4lly... punches to the f4ce!
Who would ever w4nt... one of those, Lyn????

4nd I like things... th4t m4ke sense 4nd... c4n be solved, yes!
Met4phors 4nd similes seem... 4s useless 4s Duri4n's... pl4ns, I think, yes.
They're unnecess4ry 4nd 4... w4ste of time, m4ybe.
Puzzles 4re never 4... w4ste of time, no.
They're rew4rding, 4bsolutely, 4lw4ys!
But met4phors 4nd similes... just w4ste time, yes.
When you c4n s4y... it right the first... time, you c4n, yes!
So th4t's th4t, m4ybe!

you wouldnt
thats the entire point
you need a doomsday deVice EXACTLY as much as you need a punch to the face
which is not at all

aVispa
i think you haVe a problem
with thinking that how much shit does or doesnt seem worthwhile to you
is actually a factual objectiVe View of the uniVerse
the puzzles you think are so great and rewarding
are what other people would look at and go 'why the fuck did they make this shit so conVoluted when they could just giVe me the answer right off the bat'
whereas the metaphors and similes you think are stupid and pointless
are actually widely used and accepted as a basic form of speech among most trolls
so no theyre not useless unnecessary wastes of time
any more than your faVorite puzzles are
YOU just dont like them
and you dont want to waste time learning how they work
eVen though most trolls learn and understand it on such an intrinsic leVel they dont eVen haVe to think about the solutions anymore

bottom line is
you dont haVe to like them or eVen use them
but theyre no more pointless than any other puzzle is
and when im trying to schoolfeed you about something unimaginably basic that i use eVery night
you could at least haVe the decency to not tell me how its a dumb waste of time for people who dont do things right

Oh, um, but, um.
Ok4y, m4ybe, um, yes?

... ... ... ...
But I don't underst4nd... them 4t 4ll, Lyn.

thats pretty self-eVident
i dunno if im bad at schoolfeeding or if youre bad at learning basic social skills
im thinking both

anyway
dont use em and dont like em if thats how you wanna roll
just dont pass judgment on em like its fact

im not gonna go so far as to ask you to appreciate the effort i made
partly cause thats a stupid thing to eVer expect or wait around for
partly cause i didnt actually accomplish anything here regardless
but im just stating for the record that anyone who tries to schoolfeed fundamental social truths to you deserVes a goddamn medal

W4it, um, 4 puzzle... med4l, m4ybe, Lyn, um?
But um, then, this.

I think, um, th4nk... you for trying, m4ybe?
Yes, um, th4nk you!

i said i wasnt looking for appreciation

although i guess
thanks for actually giVing a shit that im making an effort
id honestly be fine with no acknowledgment whatsoeVer
or at least not surprised
but pretty much eVeryone elses reactions are more to the tune of 'god how rude of you to interrupt us with your futile attempts to be worthwhile
why are you eVen bothering were all doomed and youre too annoying to be helpful'
so eVen though i dont actually need this embarrassing pat on the back that i had to passiVe aggressiVely prompt in any case
at least its a change

We should 4ll be... helping e4chother 4lw4ys, yes!
We're not 4ll doomed!
4nd if we 4re... I think I c4n... just ste4l th4t 4w4y!
Not yet, no, um.
But soon, I hope!
4bsolutely, yes, no one... will be doomed, no!

steal it?
does that mean you finally got your title figured out
must be a thief/rogue of doom right
uh
im trying to think of a time when stealing doom for either yourself or other players would eVer be a good thing
that seems to imply that doom is a Valuable commodity when it is actually something we WANT our enemies and shit to haVe
can you actually do it the reVerse way
stealing doom from us to giVe to enemies?
i guess that could be helpful but i didnt think that was how it worked
but what the fuck do i know its too hard to keep any of this shit straight

also did you just make 'each other' one word to fit your quirk

Oh, yes, it's Thief!
Thief of Doom, yes!
Wh4tever it does, I... c4n keep everyone from... being doomed, I c4n!
We'll find out soon!

4nd, wh4t, huh, um?
But it is one... word by itself, yes!
E4chother is just e4chother!

hey if you can more power to you
i just dunno if thats at all how it works
but yeah im not the one whos gonna be finding it out
so i guess theres no point in me worrying about it

and uh
no
theyre two separate words
they haVe literally neVer been a single word
each other
crucial space there
why does eVery conVersation i haVe with you turn into a schoolfeeding session

I hope I c4n!
Y4y y4y y4y y4y!

Th4t's 4 little puzzling.
Why 4ren't they one... single word, Lyn, um?
I like them better... 4s one word, yes.
So I'm going to... use them th4t w4y.

ugh
yknow if you wanna do things wrong cause you like em better that way
i guess that it wouldnt be worth it trying to stop you
but its still wrong
theyre separate words cause they each haVe an indiVidual meaning
and they can be used on their own without the other word
like look how i used 'each' a few sentences back
'each' means 'both'
'other' means 'different' or sometimes 'also' i guess?
idk its such a basic word i had to look it up to explain it to you
'each other' means something like 'inclusiVe within a group of people'
the point is that used indiVidually those words mean certain things
and used together they mean a completely different thing
but eVen when you use them together theyre still separate words
you cant just fuse them
well you can but its not right

why the fuck am i DOING this again
im explaining shit that only sounds complex cause most trolls learn this shit as wigglers and dont need it explained to them by the time theyre
howeVer many sweeps old you are
protip: if its oVer four and you haVe a lusus you haVe no excuse for not knowing these things
i know this shit and i had to fucking schoolfeed myself from the age of three
and i wouldnt honestly mind that much if you actually fucking BOTHERED TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING I TELL YOU
but you just go 'but lyn its hard!' and then use that as an excuse to just forget eVerything i said and do whateVer the fuck you want
like the things eVery other troll does just arent important enough for you cause apparently shit thats complex and requires intellect and effort to figure out that doesnt haVe an obVious payoff aside from actually accomplishing the thing is only worthwhile when its PUZZLES
not when its goddamn fundamentals like grammar or spelling or the foundations of social interaction

eVery time i do this
its like gently leading a skittish hoofbeast to water
filling a crystal chalice from the purest mountain stream
holding it up to its lips and asking only that it lower its magnificent head to drink from this fountain of knowledge
and then haVing it kick you in the bulge before it runs off to walk through a cactus maze cause that is somehow considered MORE ENJOYABLE
btw i know you haVe trouble with metaphors aVispa so i will giVe you a cheat sheet
the ungrateful hoofbeast who only puts effort into the most inconsequential shit and not into things that might actually be good for it is actually you

Edited 2013-05-22 20:10 (UTC)

You stare at Lyn's message for a few moments, then a few moments more, and then you frown.

Th4t m4kes 4 little... sense, the first p4rt.
But I thought they... were one word, m4ybe.
But 4fter th4t, no.
You're not being very... nice 4t 4ll, Lyn.
I solved why, too.
Bec4use you 4bsolutely don't... underst4nd me 4t 4ll.

of course i dont understand you
and of course im pissed
weVe had Variations of this exact same conVersation on like four or fiVe completely different topics
and they all end the same way
i put all this time and effort into explaining shit thats so basic it takes me like ten or fifteen minutes eVen to find the WORDS to explain them
and i go to all this trouble and frustrate the shit out of myself to help you learn new and Vital things
and then you completely blow me off cause you dont want to do hard things
and not just hard things in general
no if theyre hard PUZZLES youre all oVer them
if its hard anything you happen to be interested in youll actually bother
but if its something you dont understand
eVen if its something pretty much any other troll can and does get so it cant be THAT hard or it wouldnt be an almost uniVersal understanding
you just decide its not worth doing things differently or trying to understand
and go 'well i dont want to so im not gonna'
eVen though it means missing tons of shit or not understanding your teammates or looking stupid or any of a hundred other reasons it might ACTUALLY be worthwhile to inVest in this stuff
so you waste all my time and effort and headaches
and make trying to get you to understand the most basic shit a huge chore for me with no payoff eVer
cause im gonna haVe to clarify all this shit you refuse to learn eVery time it comes up
AND THEN IM MEAN FOR BEING TIRED OF IT
fuck you
if you kept going out of their way to help someone and they threw eVerything you did back in your face i doubt eVen youd manage to be nice about it

dont talk to me about understanding SHIT aVispa
cause youre not eVen TRYING to understand
and thats a lot worse than me not being ABLE to comprehend you
especially since no one is fucking holding ME by the hand trying to explain you to me
whereas youre giVen that priVilege with the shit im trying to help you get and you just shit on it eVery goddamn time
why the fuck should i TRY to understand you aVispa?
youre not exactly trying to understand me or anything im telling you
in fact the message im getting is that shit thats hard to figure out isnt worth trying to
and trying to figure out a person is LOT harder than trying to figure out why theres a space between two words
or how metaphors work
so you tell me aVispa
what makes understanding YOU completely unaided worth so much more effort on my part than youre willing to put into way simpler things eVen when im helping you

==> Lyndis: Be productive.

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